Posts by Mr. Falcon

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Professor Falcon Asks: Why Such Variety in Religion?

by Mr. Falcon in

if i remember correctly, the current watchtower teaching claims that the reason why there is such a diversity of religion today is due to the incident at the tower of babel.

upon confusing their languages, yahweh scattered them abroad and consequentaly they carried off with them a variety of "false religious beliefs and practices".. i would like to hear your thoughts on this.

is there archeological evidence to support this?

Mr. Falcon

In this way Babylonish religious teachings—including that of the immortality of the soul—spread across the face of the earth and became the foundation of the major religions of the world.

Isn't that what they are saying here? I think it's pretty clear that they attribute the Babel incident to the spread of religion. I remember being taught this same doctrine in the Daniel Book.

It also blames Babel for the motivation of people to travel.

I knew it!!! Ever since Expedia screwed up my vacation, I suspected they were Satanic in nature!!!!!

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Why do Jehovahs Witnesses send their mentally ill door to door?

by life is to short in

this has been a question i have asked over and over even when i was a very devout jw.

please do not get me wrong in thinking that i am trying to be mean or cruel or unkind to those who have mental illness, that is not in the least where i am going with this.

what i mean is i think it is cruel to send them door to door, it puts way to much stress on them and it looks bad for the name jehovah.. it seemed that in every hall i have ever been in there were some people who were extremely mentally ill. there have always been some in every hall who were schizophrenics or suffered major depression, or other forms of mental illness.

Mr. Falcon

Would he destroy the severely mentally handicapped individual at Armageddon because they didn't go door-to-door?

Well, given his track record in the Old Testament (killing babies, little girl sex slaves, genocide, torture, ordering parents to stone their own children, etc.) I'd venture to say that snuffing out some poor kid with Down's Syndrome or some other mental disability wouldn't be too tough.

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Professor Falcon Asks: Why Such Variety in Religion?

by Mr. Falcon in

if i remember correctly, the current watchtower teaching claims that the reason why there is such a diversity of religion today is due to the incident at the tower of babel.

upon confusing their languages, yahweh scattered them abroad and consequentaly they carried off with them a variety of "false religious beliefs and practices".. i would like to hear your thoughts on this.

is there archeological evidence to support this?

Mr. Falcon

donny, I remember being taught this growing up. I'd like your thoughts on the below citation:

*** w99 4/1 p. 11 pars. 12-13 Life After Death—What Do People Believe? ***
If this is so, then the idea that a person has a soul that survives death must have been current at least by the time of Nimrod’s death. In any case, the pages of history reveal that following the Flood, the birthplace of the teaching of the immortality of the soul was Babel, or Babylon.
13 The Bible further shows that God thwarted the efforts of the tower builders at Babel by confusing their language. No longer able to communicate with one another, they abandoned their project and were scattered “from there over all the surface of the earth.” (Genesis 11:5-9) We must bear in mind that even though the speech of these would-be tower builders had been altered, their thinking and concepts had not. Consequently, wherever they went, their religious ideas went with them. In this way Babylonish religious teachings—including that of the immortality of the soul—spread across the face of the earth and became the foundation of the major religions of the world.*

* there are other examples, this is just one that I found.

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Why do Jehovahs Witnesses send their mentally ill door to door?

by life is to short in

this has been a question i have asked over and over even when i was a very devout jw.

please do not get me wrong in thinking that i am trying to be mean or cruel or unkind to those who have mental illness, that is not in the least where i am going with this.

what i mean is i think it is cruel to send them door to door, it puts way to much stress on them and it looks bad for the name jehovah.. it seemed that in every hall i have ever been in there were some people who were extremely mentally ill. there have always been some in every hall who were schizophrenics or suffered major depression, or other forms of mental illness.

Mr. Falcon

palm, that is crazy! That poor lady!

Question, though, relating to your experience: Would God destroy the householder at Armageddon because they didn't respond to the message of a unintelligible sales-pitch delivered by a severly mentally-handicapped individual?

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Why do Jehovahs Witnesses send their mentally ill door to door?

by life is to short in

this has been a question i have asked over and over even when i was a very devout jw.

please do not get me wrong in thinking that i am trying to be mean or cruel or unkind to those who have mental illness, that is not in the least where i am going with this.

what i mean is i think it is cruel to send them door to door, it puts way to much stress on them and it looks bad for the name jehovah.. it seemed that in every hall i have ever been in there were some people who were extremely mentally ill. there have always been some in every hall who were schizophrenics or suffered major depression, or other forms of mental illness.

Mr. Falcon

eally the Service Committees need to be on top of things and ensure that whomever is out there peddling is not a danger to themselves or the public,

Miz, isn't it funny how, despite this being technically true, the typical Service Committee can't even educate the JWs on how to actually be effective at the door, let alone determine who is fit to solicit their propaganda.

The result of all this theocratic training? The average JW, even if they are mentally healthy, is a complete mess at the door.

Facking hilarious.

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Professor Falcon Asks: Why Such Variety in Religion?

by Mr. Falcon in

if i remember correctly, the current watchtower teaching claims that the reason why there is such a diversity of religion today is due to the incident at the tower of babel.

upon confusing their languages, yahweh scattered them abroad and consequentaly they carried off with them a variety of "false religious beliefs and practices".. i would like to hear your thoughts on this.

is there archeological evidence to support this?

Mr. Falcon

If I remember correctly, the current Watchtower teaching claims that the reason why there is such a diversity of religion today is due to the incident at the Tower of Babel. Upon confusing their languages, Yahweh scattered them abroad and consequentaly they carried off with them a variety of "false religious beliefs and practices".

I would like to hear your thoughts on this. Is there archeological evidence to support this? Do you believe this? If this is indeed historically accurate, would today's religious diversity as well as certian concentrations of faith (i.e. North American predominately Christian, Middle East predominately Islamic, etc.) serve to strengthen the WTBS doctrine concerning this?

Come at me, bro.

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Why do Jehovahs Witnesses send their mentally ill door to door?

by life is to short in

this has been a question i have asked over and over even when i was a very devout jw.

please do not get me wrong in thinking that i am trying to be mean or cruel or unkind to those who have mental illness, that is not in the least where i am going with this.

what i mean is i think it is cruel to send them door to door, it puts way to much stress on them and it looks bad for the name jehovah.. it seemed that in every hall i have ever been in there were some people who were extremely mentally ill. there have always been some in every hall who were schizophrenics or suffered major depression, or other forms of mental illness.

Mr. Falcon

Yes. I don't have much to add to the comments above; they pretty much sum this up. But I can honestly say that I have been to the door with JWs who, despite me NOT being a psychologist, were almost certainly mentally disturbed. I'm not speaking about your usual eccentric and bizarre JW, I am referring to being at doors with JWs who were schizophrenic, suicidal, manic-depressive and/or bipolar. Additionally, many of these unfortunate souls were prone to hallucinations (one JW lady not only swore she was of the annointed but even went so far as to claim that she had to battle demons in the basement of the Kingdom Hall on the night of the Memorial. She has since become inactive.)

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"Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over."

by Mr. Falcon in

(numbers 5:23-28) 23 and the priest must write these cursings in the book and must wipe them out into the bitter water.

24 and he must make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and the water that brings a curse must enter into her as something bitter.

25 and the priest must take the grain offering of jealousy from the womans hand and wave the grain offering to and fro before jehovah, and he must bring it near the altar.

Mr. Falcon

Yeah this is FUBAR. Don't worry, I wouldn't let them try this on you.

Nobody puts Palm in the corner!

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"Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over."

by Mr. Falcon in

(numbers 5:23-28) 23 and the priest must write these cursings in the book and must wipe them out into the bitter water.

24 and he must make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and the water that brings a curse must enter into her as something bitter.

25 and the priest must take the grain offering of jealousy from the womans hand and wave the grain offering to and fro before jehovah, and he must bring it near the altar.

Mr. Falcon

In a supersistious community that saw God kick the ass of many with plagues, fire and serious surfing skills, a person who WAS guilty of being unfaitful and was brought for judgment and told what woudl happen if they are found guilt, would be initimidated to the point that IF they were guilt and if their consious was 'eating away at them", they would indeed "show" the signs of guilt as above.

Isn't this how Stalin's secret police worked?

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"Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over."

by Mr. Falcon in

(numbers 5:23-28) 23 and the priest must write these cursings in the book and must wipe them out into the bitter water.

24 and he must make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and the water that brings a curse must enter into her as something bitter.

25 and the priest must take the grain offering of jealousy from the womans hand and wave the grain offering to and fro before jehovah, and he must bring it near the altar.

Mr. Falcon

talk to me sizemik, what's your take on all this?